http://mvtclass.com/2009/09/06/a-leader-led-by-god/ Mary Virginia Thomas Sunday School Class Blog Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:50:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 http://mvtclass.com/2009/09/06/a-leader-led-by-god/comment-page-1/#comment-1344 MVTeacher Tue, 08 Sep 2009 03:32:01 +0000 http://mvtclass.com/?p=1385#comment-1344 Thanks, Bro Spence. I think you're right; we'll know someday and in the meantime it's simply another test of faith. I do believe that there are reasons that speak to Israel at the time, the people who were conquered and -- this is really important -- that speak to us. Blessings. Thanks, Bro Spence. I think you’re right; we’ll know someday and in the meantime it’s simply another test of faith. I do believe that there are reasons that speak to Israel at the time, the people who were conquered and — this is really important — that speak to us. Blessings.

]]> http://mvtclass.com/2009/09/06/a-leader-led-by-god/comment-page-1/#comment-1341 Brother Spence Tue, 08 Sep 2009 00:06:14 +0000 http://mvtclass.com/?p=1385#comment-1341 You folks had an interesting time Sunday it seems... In regards the thinking about these bloody Old Testament stories and reconciling the Israelites conduct with our idea of a loving and compassionate God... Yes! I agree we cannot do anything to change the past and we thank God we will understand the "why" God gave the instructions He did when we see Him in our future life. We do know the scriptures tell us about those secret things that belong to God while the revealed things belong to us... Deut. 29:29. So we would do well to content ourselves for the time being that God's reasoning here is one of those secret things. In so far as we know God maybe had been dealing with all those other people groups to bring them into His covenant too. We do know God gave instructions to deal merceifully with different people so perhaps in God's own time God had made providion for these folks to be incorporated too but they refused, rebelled and suffered the consequences. They didn't leave a written or oral record of how God dealt with them... The only evidence I see (there may be others) is that incidence where in the year before the events here with Joshua we see the kings that went to the seer Baalam for him to curse the Israelites. Most scholars speak of Baalam as a pagan seer... but if he was such a pagan , how would he have had the relationshipo he did with the God of the Israelites? Does this not suggest God's dealing with other peoples besides the Israelites? As I said earlier we think God only dealt with the Israelites because of the written records of Moses.... But maybe we are looking through a too narrow lense and need to broaden our appreciation for the mobility of this God of ours. Just something to think about when we feel wont to struggle with the things that we just don't know. You folks had an interesting time Sunday it seems… In regards the thinking about these bloody Old Testament stories and reconciling the Israelites conduct with our idea of a loving and compassionate God… Yes! I agree we cannot do anything to change the past and we thank God we will understand the “why” God gave the instructions He did when we see Him in our future life. We do know the scriptures tell us about those secret things that belong to God while the revealed things belong to us… Deut. 29:29. So we would do well to content ourselves for the time being that God’s reasoning here is one of those secret things.
In so far as we know God maybe had been dealing with all those other people groups to bring them into His covenant too. We do know God gave instructions to deal merceifully with different people so perhaps in God’s own time God had made providion for these folks to be incorporated too but they refused, rebelled and suffered the consequences. They didn’t leave a written or oral record of how God dealt with them… The only evidence I see (there may be others) is that incidence where in the year before the events here with Joshua we see the kings that went to the seer Baalam for him to curse the Israelites. Most scholars speak of Baalam as a pagan seer… but if he was such a pagan , how would he have had the relationshipo he did with the God of the Israelites? Does this not suggest God’s dealing with other peoples besides the Israelites? As I said earlier we think God only dealt with the Israelites because of the written records of Moses…. But maybe we are looking through a too narrow lense and need to broaden our appreciation for the mobility of this God of ours. Just something to think about when we feel wont to struggle with the things that we just don’t know.

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