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		<title>By: Karen Daniels</title>
		<link>http://mvtclass.com/2009/06/23/pursued-by-the-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also want to add to Tom&#039;s response that, Pharoah made a choice, he viewed himself to be greater than Moses&#039;s God.  He, Pharoah, as Tom said, hardened his own heart...but let us not forget, he was not a nice Pharoah...he wanted the Israelites to suffer for his own purposes, to create a &quot;kindgom&quot; for himeself...this is going to sound harsh, but...&quot;what goes around, comes around&quot;...&quot;do unto others...&quot;!- K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also want to add to Tom&#8217;s response that, Pharoah made a choice, he viewed himself to be greater than Moses&#8217;s God.  He, Pharoah, as Tom said, hardened his own heart&#8230;but let us not forget, he was not a nice Pharoah&#8230;he wanted the Israelites to suffer for his own purposes, to create a &#8220;kindgom&#8221; for himeself&#8230;this is going to sound harsh, but&#8230;&#8221;what goes around, comes around&#8221;&#8230;&#8221;do unto others&#8230;&#8221;!- K</p>
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		<title>By: MVTeacher</title>
		<link>http://mvtclass.com/2009/06/23/pursued-by-the-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>MVTeacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should bother us - just as Cain should bother us and Judas should bother us (that&#039;s why I tagged this post with &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodicy#Proposed_solutions&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Theodicy&lt;/a&gt;&quot;).  First of all, Pharaoh hardened his own heart (Exodus 8:&lt;a href=&quot;http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=112867172&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;15&lt;/a&gt; &amp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=112867255&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;32&lt;/a&gt;).  BUT . . . God created Pharaoh, and he knew that sending Moses to free the people of Israel from this particular Pharaoh would result in him hardening his heart (Exodus &lt;a href=&quot;http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=112867309&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;4:21&lt;/a&gt;).  Similarly, in &lt;a href=&quot;http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=112867381&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;John 13:26-27&lt;/a&gt;, Jesus gives bread to Judas, singling him out as the one who would betray him and then telling him to go and &quot;do quickly what you are going to do&quot;.  He&#039;s God, he&#039;s all-knowing, so he knows what Judas is going to do.  BUT . . . He&#039;s God, he&#039;s all powerful, why didn&#039;t he change Judas&#039;s heart (for that matter, why didn&#039;t he change the hearts of the Pharisees and Pilate)?
To say that it&#039;s a matter of free-will is to over-simplify the question, because it still leaves us with the issue of the death of innocents (whether they be the first-born of Egypt or the first-born of Bethlehem) and - even more problematic - natural disasters caused by no human action. The problem is that we&#039;re dealing with an all-powerful, all-knowing, all-good God and we find it hard to reconcile the three.  (We&#039;re not alone in this -- from Job to C.S. Lewis we&#039;ve been trying to understand the conundrum).
I don&#039;t know the answer, but I know the solution . . .
&lt;a href=&quot;http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=112867991&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;God died to fix the problem&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should bother us &#8211; just as Cain should bother us and Judas should bother us (that&#8217;s why I tagged this post with &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodicy#Proposed_solutions" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Theodicy</a>&#8220;).  First of all, Pharaoh hardened his own heart (Exodus 8:<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=112867172" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">15</a> &#038; <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=112867255" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">32</a>).  BUT . . . God created Pharaoh, and he knew that sending Moses to free the people of Israel from this particular Pharaoh would result in him hardening his heart (Exodus <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=112867309" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">4:21</a>).  Similarly, in <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=112867381" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">John 13:26-27</a>, Jesus gives bread to Judas, singling him out as the one who would betray him and then telling him to go and &#8220;do quickly what you are going to do&#8221;.  He&#8217;s God, he&#8217;s all-knowing, so he knows what Judas is going to do.  BUT . . . He&#8217;s God, he&#8217;s all powerful, why didn&#8217;t he change Judas&#8217;s heart (for that matter, why didn&#8217;t he change the hearts of the Pharisees and Pilate)?<br />
To say that it&#8217;s a matter of free-will is to over-simplify the question, because it still leaves us with the issue of the death of innocents (whether they be the first-born of Egypt or the first-born of Bethlehem) and &#8211; even more problematic &#8211; natural disasters caused by no human action. The problem is that we&#8217;re dealing with an all-powerful, all-knowing, all-good God and we find it hard to reconcile the three.  (We&#8217;re not alone in this &#8212; from Job to C.S. Lewis we&#8217;ve been trying to understand the conundrum).<br />
I don&#8217;t know the answer, but I know the solution . . .<br />
<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=112867991" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">God died to fix the problem</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: susan</title>
		<link>http://mvtclass.com/2009/06/23/pursued-by-the-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-183</link>
		<dc:creator>susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question.  More than once, but specifically in this passage, the idea of  our God &quot;hardening the heart&quot; of the Pharaoh is mentioned.  What does this mean?  Does He really work this way?  This has always bothered me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question.  More than once, but specifically in this passage, the idea of  our God &#8220;hardening the heart&#8221; of the Pharaoh is mentioned.  What does this mean?  Does He really work this way?  This has always bothered me.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Daniels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...so that I will gain glory for myself over Pharaoh and all his army; and the Egyptians shall know that I am the Lord. &quot;
This about says it all.  When we live for the glory of God, His purpose is served.- Karen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;so that I will gain glory for myself over Pharaoh and all his army; and the Egyptians shall know that I am the Lord. &#8221;<br />
This about says it all.  When we live for the glory of God, His purpose is served.- Karen</p>
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